RW Chapter 178

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Chapter 178 The Mysterous Secret Temple

“Ha ha ha…” Heather laughed out loudly, “It must not be expected that a chess-piece will stay completely obedient the whole time, and as long as it is consistence with our final goal everything will be alright. It doesn’t matter where he strikes, as long as the soldiers continue to consume the pills. Anyway, the Kingdom of Graycastle is the last one on our list, so there is still enough time left for them to fight it out. Furthermore, Roland Wimbledon didn’t reject our pills last time, right? Maybe when Timothy puts some pressure on the Western Territory, he will be prepared to accept them.”

 

That being said, the matter concerning the Queen of Clearwarter still caused some displeasure to Archbishop Mayne, after all, she was a piece he had personally selected. In case that Timothy, after conquering the rest of the Kingdom of Graycastle still didn’t fight a decisive battle with Garcia, and they instead stationed their troops between them to maintain the confrontation, the battle for the throne wouldn’t achieve desired outcome. Apparently it is time to adopt some different methods.

 

“There still isn’t any news from the envoy we’ve sent to the Western Border, so we will meet again after we hear from them,” Mayne decided. “Let’s end it here for today. Will the two excellencies act accordingly to the plan, I still have some other matters I have to attend to on Hermes.

 

“Oh, that’s right isn’t it,” Heather seemed to suddenly have remembered something, “Wasn’t today, the day of conversion? How many people have decided to participate in the conversion ceremony?”

 

“That is confidential information.” With this Mayne stood up and went straight out of the chamber, not turning around even once.

 

 

After walking on a seemingly endless stairway that was hanging in mid air leading to the bottom, the Archbishop crossed a mirror-like white millstone and went towards the depths of the Church’s core.

 

Different from its usual quiet, the core was quite lively today, a group of Judges were standing outside of the temple, waiting to be lead in. For most of them, it was their first time entering this place, so they were all busy looking around still full of curiosity. The moment they saw Mayne their hands went straight to their chest and they gave him a salute, “Your Excellency!”

 

He smiled and nodded in their direction. These Judges were the elite warriors of the church and they were fully devoted to God, sacrificing their life for the chance to be part of the God’s Punishment Army Conversion Ceremony, without having any guarantee of success. This was a point that they had to understand clearly before they could apply, but even so, they were still willing to give up their life for this great honor.

 

The eyes of the warriors were full of reverence as they looked at him. In this way, he passed the third checkpoint and came to the gate of the Central Secret Temple. The Pope’s personal guards were already here waiting for him. They bowed to greet him, then pushed open the metal gate behind them.

 

Mayne followed the guards and stepped in behind them, through the gate. From this point onwards, he has entered the heart of Hermes, it was here that all of the Church’s inventions and research took place.

 

There were no torches within the central secret area, because of this his vision suddenly darkened and only after a moment for him to adapt did he see a narrow passage appear in front of his eyes. The channels roof and walls have been fully covered with cast iron, and both sided of it were inlaid with fluorescent stones. These strange stones were a type of the God’s Stone of Retaliation, and after soaking in demonic beast blood they began to emit a green fluorescence.

 

Reaching the end of the channel a cage appeared in front of him. After entering the cage, the guards activated the mechanism and it started to go downwards. The chain above their heads issued a crunching sound, which seemed to be especially ear-piercing within the narrow channel. Accompanied by this cacophony of sounds, the cage slowly sank into a hole in the ground, then suddenly Mayne’s eyes were flooded with light.

 

An extremely spacious underground area suddenly appeared before his eyes.

 

No matter how often he had seen this scene, he would always be shocked by it anew, giving birth to a feeling of insignificance from his heart.

 

In accordance with common sense, buried so deeply underground, the cave should have been dark, pitch-dark. But here, the entire cave was illuminated by the light coming from the God’s Stone of Retaliation. The God’s Stone of Retaliation were spread over the whole cave, rising from the ground and forming several stalagmites like crystal flowers. Even the smallest stalagmites were so thick that it was nearly impossible for as many as ten grown men to encircle it. While the highest stalagmite almost reached the apex of the cave, even higher than the Hermes’ Cathedral’s Tower.

 

Their colors were also all differently having almost nothing in common with each other, the densest stalagmites of God’s Stone of Retaliation were lavender, while the ones at the edge had changed from a dark blue to a light green. The smaller ones were even white, while the seemingly only recently emerged stalagmites had a near transparent body. The lavender colored God’s Stone of Retaliation were the stones shining the brightest, especially the stalagmite which surpassed even the Cathedral’s tower. Its brightness came close to the that of the full moon, making it possible to see the end of the cave without the help of a torch, but also allowing one to just faintly be able to see the ground.

 

Under the influence of such a large concentration of the God’s Stone of Retaliation, the inside of the mountains could be regarded as being a magic free area. The God’s Stone of Retaliation that were sold by the Church had all been mined from this place.

 

The space within the cave was large enough to accommodate five or six of Hermes’ basilicas, and down here they had indeed built an exact replica of the cathedral that was above ground, called the Pantheon. But the temple looked much older than the one that was on the top of the mountain. From high up in the air, Mayne could see a black iron gate in the mountain wall behind the temple. It led to the entrance standing at the foot of Hermes connecting it with the Old Holy City. So in a sense, this ancient building could be called the actual core of the Church, it has already existed long before the New Holy City had been established.

 

The cage took a quarter-hour to reach the ground. When Mayne could finally walk out of the cage, he straightened his robes and followed the messenger to the temple.

 

The conversion ceremony would be held in a hall of the temple.

 

Stepping into the hall, the light surrounding the Archbishop was no longer a cold blue-lavender but was instead an orange that was created by thousands of burning candles. Overhead there hung a three-tiered tower-like chandelier, and candle holders had been placed all around the hall. Looking at them through devote eyes they seemed like countless shaking stars. Thanks to all of the flames, the chilliness had been completely dispersed from the cave.

 

The man standing in the middle of the two conversion tables was the Supreme Pontiff of the Church, Pope O’Brien. He wore an eye-catching red-gold robe with gold-colored gemstones on his head and at the moment was carefully checking the conversion equipment, and finishing the last bit of preparations for the ceremony.

 

“Your Holiness,” standing before O’Brian, Mayne immediately kneeled down in worship and kissing the pope’s fingers.

 

“Get up, son.” the pope slowly responded with a hoarse voice. “Besides the guards, no one else is here, there is no need for elaborate rituals.”

 

“Right,” Mayne stood up, but still couldn’t stop himself from becoming shocked. Compared with last time, the Supreme Pontiff now appeared to be much older, he had gotten deep wrinkles all over his face, and his skin now seemed to be an unhealthy shade of white, both loose and dull. Lastly, a lot of dense and eye-catching brown spots had appeared all over his body. Seeing the pope in such condition, the Archbishop’s eyes immediately became hot, “You’re… suffering.”

 

“This is a trace of time,” O’Brien muttered, “no one can fight against time, my life is running low, I’m afraid that I will never see the day when humans can defeat the devil. But, in this way I also don’t have to face the pain of the unknown anymore. Be that as it might, you have to keep on fighting until you’ve finally defeat the enemy or you’ve been defeated by them.”

 

If we fail again, we will ultimately perish, Mayne nodded, “I will do my duty until even the very last minute.”

 

“Very well,” the old man smiled in satisfaction. “You’ve been doing very well lately, you’ve even increased the Army of Judges by more than thousand soldiers. Today we have sixty-two applications for the conversion, which can be regarded as the biggest number within recent years.”

 

“Can you tell me how many members of the God’s Punishment Army we will need to overthrow the Devils?” Mayne asked, and after hesitating for a moment, he continued. “All the information I know about the Devils comes from the Holy Book. But the record in the book aren’t complete, within them, there isn’t any information about their origin, quantity or combat style recorded. I know that to know these secret I will have to wait until I become the next Pope, but…”

 

“You are too anxious, you have to show more patience,” O’Brian reminded him, “and it won’t be long before you can take over the title of Supreme Pontiff, becoming the next Pope. You will find all the answers to your questions in a secret library at the top of the Pantheon. For now, I can only tell you this, the more there are, the better it will be.” He sighed.

 

“Also, I’m not really looking forward to you presiding over the conversion ceremony, but since you’re already here, this session of the conversion, you will try to host it while I will be looking at it from the side. For later, this way you can also accumulate some… Keke… experience.”

Mayne promptly patted the Pope’s back and when his breathing had become slightly smoother, he then bowed and said: “As Your Holiness commands.”

 

TN: Basilika


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  • mr.tanen

    this chapter is best read while listening to:

  • Xegqu

    Thanks for the chapter.

  • Just a Potato

    The pope said something creepy by the end…..

  • Lemeres

    I think there is no actual number of mind slaves that can defeat the devil.

    From the ancient book, it appears to be that there is some kind of detrimental effect from having too much miasma in the air. So my guess is that the modern church has gone so long without a direct assault on the devil inner territories that they have forgotten that the inner area is a death zones. So melee soldiers are the worst choice here.

    Nope. We will have to wait until someone builds artillery to bombard the devil territory from a distance, as well as scuba suits based upon a reverse of the devil outrider equipment (it is made to store miasma for a devil to breath, so the material and general design must be made to be able to contain miasma preventing its escape; ergo, it could contain oxygen and still be air tight against miasma)

  • siyangqiu

    If the church doesn’t need to harvest witches, why do they antagonize them? Shouldn’t they try to leverage the power of against the demons? Even if witches are heretical, isn’t it still their “lesser of two evils”?

  • Zeth

    Thank you!!!

  • NaoSou

    Thanks for the chapter!

  • phyrigia

    reading supreme pontiff, i suddenly remembered duoluo dalu. supreme pontiff Bibi. the devil woman.

  • phyrigia

    I think roland would be the first to find how to destroy and defeat the devil. to use the O’Hail King Flint. The demon will get burned into dust. And the church will gape their mouth so much that they can’t speak afterwards.

  • MangoGuy

    Aha!! Nice writing…damn I forgot what I wanted to say.

    • MangoGuy

      Kids,never pick up an unknown book lying on the floor. It may not lead you to bright light.

  • dns7950

    I hate these stupid Church chapters.. So boring.

  • VerneJules

    I’m interested on what would the Church’s reaction be when Roland becomes king, turns Border Town into the capital, announce expansion and reclamation plans to the western lands, and declare war against aliens before the Church could even announce the existence of devils. If possible, I hope the al/chemist could distinguish and name the foreign element of the God’s stone of retaliation.

    “Your excellency, the people of Graycastle are now capable of acquiring God’s stones of retaliation by themselves. They’re treating it now like mere mineral.”

    “What?”

    “Furthermore, their king has declared war against aliens due to their hostility towards humans.”

    “Aliens?”

    “Beings from another world.”

    “Aren’t those the devils!? Now, with the debunking of God’s stone of retaliation as God’s blessing, if we were to announce the existence of devils when they’re suddenly established as foreign life forms, wouldn’t that make the Church teachings as mere superstitions!?”

    • mllhild

      If the church ever came to talks with Roland they would be quite surprised at how much he knows about their secrets already. Just wait until Lightning gets back to that dammed tower.

  • mllhild

    So the God Stone of Retaliation is a normally occurring mineral? Well, at least its not made from dried and pressed witches.

    Also that it shines after soaked in demon blood could mean that it gets changed maybe from an magic drain into a magic source? Would be sweet if you could use this as power source. (Anyone here watched Nanoha and remembers the artificial linker cores?)

  • Herloct

    Looks like, in terms of technology, The Church is the most advanced on the whole continents, huh? Up until Roland “awaken”…

  • Angel

    thousand torch always burning 24/7, the oxigen will burn so fast, why the pope not die living 24/7 in there ? that’s really weird 😀

    thx for the chapter ^^

    • Inbetweenbooks

      huuuuuuge cavern. building cities with huge spires there was no problem, so maybe equally huge drafts?

  • BurstThrough

    BE PATIENT!!!?!
    It’ll really be “the end of the world as we know it”!!!
    I hate these two pricks!!
    This is the most annoying narrator and church member cause at least Alicia was just dumb and the rest have a “greater good for all” mentality.
    But these 2 are actually putting burocracy first!!?!

  • Oak

    Thanks for the chapter,
    Now I really want to know the truth behind the devils

  • Balanite

    Quarter-hour can be said to be quarter of an hour or 15 minutes, no?

    Also, I think the “Keke” was the Pope’s sickly cough.

  • esya

    They want to do things for the ‘greater good’ unfortunately hell is paved with good intention.

  • Danis

    Mc where are you?
    Thanks for the chapter 😀

  • Wrandral

    “you can also accumulate some… Keke… experience”
    Am i the only one having my rape alert blaring?

    • BurstThrough

      My alert is more of a “there is a Satan worshiper in the high ranks” but yeah this can only end badly.

  • >“There still isn’t any news from the envoy we’ve sent to the Western Border, so we will meet again after we hear from them”
    I’m honestly a bit sad that they all died, that guy looked like a good candidate as a spy after he saw what the church made with his brother, even the priestess seemed a reasonable person.

    • well its Ashes’ own decision plus her own revenge, what could Roland possibly do?

      • Yeah, I hate this kind of people that do things without minding the consequence.

    • Nnelg

      Honestly, I’m surprised they weren’t expected to report in upon arrival…

  • agila0212

    Thank you for the chapter ^^

  • Shangori

    Have a feeling Mayne will become disillusioned with the church and religion at some point.. At least, that’s what I hope. The writer seems more interested in the human aspect of the situation over blunt fighting and such a development would be amazing to see.

    • timbone

      That would mean less canon fodder for the main character but if Mayne is male then it is more likely.

  • ambi

    Thanks for the chapter Rene J., Roxerer, and KitKat! His last sentence sounded rather ominous and unsavory.

  • SeraphiMaelstrom

    They won’t even wonder how the hell Roland defeated the Duke? 😐 Okay…

  • Deman Bloodx

    Tilly went up and disappeared so she isn’t fighting for the crown.

  • Lazy Crow

    It’s Tilly Wimbledon~ Cause I think She didn’t receive anything from them

  • Raufgar

    [On Teaser]

    He didn’t reject them outright, but he knows what they can do now.

    Oh, and also, your scouts are dead. He didn’t do it. Just sayin’

  • Grey Human

    Thank you for the chapter. Now i´m kind of curious about the internal working of the “church” and religion in general in this world. Up until now, we only know from all of the expositions and conversations that, the “church” are (probably) the remnant of Demon resistance army from hundreds of year ago and their ultimate goal is the extermination and annihilation of invading Demons that yet to come by any means necessary. we don’t even know that whether the “church” is monotheism(worship one true god) or polytheism(worship many deities/gods). Heck, we even don´t know how their believer pray formally(mass, offering, etc) and whether they have holy text or not. And what about other religion, i´m sure people of Fjord(who based of Viking) and sand people(who based on desert nomad) at least worship different god from the rest of people who believe in the “church”. I hope in the future author will at least mention about everything that i have stated before to give more live and realism into the story.

    • Herloct

      AFAIK, Roland too doesn’t really knows about church teachings and doesn’t really cares about it

      • Inbetweenbooks

        although, if they have a “forbidden fruit of knowledge” storry, he can make some badass speeches when accused of being the devil….

        “My great great ancestor on my mothers line once sold eternal life and painless childbirth for knowledge for all of her line. I am a filial son, and as such, by God i will use the tressure my great granny bought and payed for. and let me tell you, Granny Eve scammed the devil good…”

        “what can the devil offer me, that i can not do with knowledge? I can make mud and ash turn to stone, force earth and water to draw my chariots and carry my burdens, mine my mines and forge my blades, i can cage lightning and make it run in circles. No, the devil has nothing to offer me, that my granny didn’t already buy for us.”

        • Herloct

          Hovering in the sky using his Baloon, and amplifying his speech using Echo power, then he said “Take heed!!”

          Damn, I hope Roland found walking 3D projector next

    • Rahmahdi Adi

      If i am not mistaken in the previous chapter i forgot which one there is explanation that current church is church that exist after eliminated other two churchs and become sole religion exist
      That means at the beginning there are more than ine church a t that world

      • Raufgar

        To be precise, more than one religion on that world. And it is also possible that they were fighting the Devil even then…

    • mllhild

      The people of the Fjord are said to be polytheists, believing in nature gods. (Explained by the merchant who bought the steam engines)

      The sandpeople belive in tribal gods. (Is mentioned during the meeting of Garcia with them) Also the lider of one of the clans is a witch and she is called goddess. So the tribal gods are either nature gods, heroes of old or witches.

      The Church is obviously monotheistic, its always singular: “God’s Locked of Protection” “God’s Army of Retribution”. So they believe in 1 god and everything besides him is evil. They have to be monotheistic also because they are trying to unify the power and that is what monotheistic religious institution were created for. They are going for a reverse form of caesaropapism. All with the aim to decrease internal struggle, hoping so to increase the total fighting strength against the devils.

  • Rico Sebastian

    Who is this chesspiece , hmmm…… :/

  • Kuq Ku

    They seem really stupid.. I really cant understand their logic at all.

    • john delacruz

      You’re gonna have to watch a lot of movies featuring the church during the dark ages, medieval age, and the renaissance.

      They are extremely mischevous and evil schemers.

      And they use “God” to justify their actions

      • Kuq Ku

        They seem to take the most convoluted pathway to their objective, its like theyre burning a bridge they want to use for themselves, instead of preserving it they allow it to be destroyed then take a pathway further down the road to cross another bridge that they also burn preventing them from using it only to walk back up the road to rebuild the earlier bridge they destroyed, then discover those bridges werent important to begin with.

        • timbone

          When you create a “god” that let’s you win all the time, you get delusional
          It is pretty much a puppet god that says and does whatever they want.
          That type of power can drive a smart man into complacency

    • Inbetweenbooks

      they need humanity to work as one against a common enemy. The death of hundred of thousands is more than acceptable for the survival of the species. The kingdoms can’t unite, and even if they did, there would be even more disharmony and infighting, and they don’t even understand the urgent need too unite.

      they need all lands with all their resources, but they also need excuses so everyone can fall in line. And lets face it, no way that every single king would just say “hey, some ancient evil we haven’t heard of in generations, and whose every proof of existence has been meticulously erased is coming to kill us. lets all unite as brothers. No, we don’t have any proof of this other than some old dudes word, and that the winters has been a bit harsh…”

      • Kuq Ku

        Winter is coming, The white walkers, I mean the demonic beasts and devils are coming and only we stand in their path we must unite! I feel deja vu

  • Phalnix

    I just want to see the church get steam rolled. one thing i want to see is a 80mph steam engine ram right into their army over and over and steam ships with heavy artillery taking out boats and churches.
    with 5-10k rifles aimed at the church with 8 rounds each won’t be a single soldier left after 2min of gun fire.

    • Nnelg

      Only 10k rifles, with 8 rounds each? The Church has hundereds of thousands of soldiers. Guns aren’t *that* powerful.

      • Phalnix

        im pretty sure the church will underestimate him and send 2 thousand or so soldier at first then send about 5 thousand or so by then when they he would have already taken at least 3-4 cities.

      • DudeForDuke

        Tangentially related historical anecdote:
        Shortly before World War I, the German Kaiser was the guest of the Swiss government to observe military maneuvers. The Kaiser asked a Swiss militiaman: “You are 500,000 and you shoot well, but if we attack with 1,000,000 men what will you do?” The soldier replied: “We will shoot twice and go home.”

        The scary part is he might not have been exaggerating that much…

  • Baka Hiru

    Hope they don’t find out too soon. I was hoping that Roland would make tanks first before they found out.

    • MOHLT
      • Proxy Account

        Roland needs to have dat black water. . .Fools only use them for burning.

        • Wrandral

          Wouldn’t be surprised if he and his alchemists find an alternative to oil later

          • DudeForDuke

            One already exists: Wood gas.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas

            • mllhild

              The necessary filters are still to hard to make for BorderTown. Also I would guess that Roland has no clue on how to make these filters.

            • Wrandral

              Yeah but i meant a clean alternative, since Roland comes from China he knows what unchecked and uncaring industrialization will do to the land and the ecosystem.

              I know beggars can’t be choosers especially considering his situation where he needs an industrial base to support his war effort but ….

              • DudeForDuke

                Uh, wood glass is a clean and renewable alternative (petroleum has to be refined and processed, this has about the environmental impact of steam engine use, so long as you – eventually – replant the trees you use the environment it’s quite clean and renewable). Even so, I don’t really think he’ll care if it isn’t. Once he heard something that sounded like oil, he got as giddy as a school girl and immediately wanted to go and get it (and realized he couldn’t yet – bonus points that the oil in this world is also in a very hot and hostile desert). I can’t blame him, either. Environment takes a baaaaaack seat to that kind of power in an industrial revolution.

          • Raufgar

            Possible, but unlikely, given that Roland already knows of the existence of Naphtha on that world, he’d move to acquire it.

            Refinement should be possible with Anna’s help with pressure vessels, something that we have not seen mentioned in detail yet, aside from the steam engines, but should be, since it would solve a lot of his problems…

            • Inbetweenbooks

              woodgas would help him NOW though… and he does understand to use makeshift solutions to problems he would rather have a different solution to.

              hell, Anna is his makeshift most things until he can get that machinepark up and running.

      • DudeForDuke

        Or even more old school.
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/58a07a27b6a3cacedbc36388212639fc1ef9da09322037b30998eafd1d194a80.jpg
        Hopefully Roland could improve the top speed, though…
        That said, plowing through their lines and letting the side sponsons mow down entire lines of infantry with enfilade firing would be devastating.

      • Barbatos
      • Yangxiao Ou

        Just remember this post, there is a joke about tank later in this novel ^_^

    • Inbetweenbooks

      eh, not enough steal output. he has a mine, yes, but that probably doesn’t even come close to what he needs before he can consider tanks. He barely has enough to make all the guns and cannons he needs, nevermind building a tank with an engine strong enough to bulldoze trees and difficult terrain since i highly doubt that the roads can hold for a tank brigade. they were already having huge trouble moving mere canons…

      not to mention that his engines are put to use everywhere, and pairing a engine that he could use for his industry to a single gun is a bit of a luxury at this point…

  • Maxi King

    Oh Heather… you poor oblivious zealot.

    • BurstThrough

      In her defense how could she know the dude would invent gunpowder and go through 200 years of war research in 6 months? Including morale tactics, the use of witches and military training methods.

      • Tolack

        His troops just need more numbers and experience to go with their gear, and he’ll steamroll cultists and demons.

        • Neruz

          Yeah, if Roland can get together say five to ten-thousand riflemen plus field artillery support then no-one except possibly the Devils will be able to do a thing to stop him.

        • Herloct

          Also he needs more resources (ores, chemicals, workers, etc)

    • Deman Bloodx

      Heather would have never guess Roland was asian on the inside. And he’s from the future of a different world. To boot, he’s also a mechanical engineer. To her, he’s still her lovable brother that she hasn’t seen in a while.

    • john delacruz

      I have a feeling that this Heather is gonna get killed later on when she gets to her destination, while performing a “Holy Inquisition”.

      • Maxi King

        nobody expects the holy inquisition!

  • MangoGuy

    The author sure is playing with us….where is nightingale?

    • Licking her wounds

      • Baka Hiru

        That’s harsh!

      • Proxy Account

        daem, that burnt harder than the church burning witches…

  • Robinxen

    I really want to read their responses to their precious Gods Punishment Army getting steamrolled by the industrial revolution Roland is leading.

    • MangoGuy

      We all do!

    • I’m itching for that moment!!

    • Proxy Account

      We’ll get there, I just know it. With the alchemist in his hands, he can even opt to form Baloon Corps/Brigades, just dropping basic charges. And at a height unreachable to common soldiers and their bows, I think that would be devastating, provided that the weather is clear, and he can address the fire mechanism. We need some black water for this.

    • 『Kumagawa Misogi』

      Then blame it to the witch

    • DudeForDuke

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bd9932abc7ca2ad1e51e42b6a42427956bbab6893fe20d136cbff938851728dd.jpg
      Lines of trained riflemen, snipers, artillery, Dragoon cavalry, hand-cranked gatling guns, a Maxim machine gun or two, hot air balloons providing reconnaissance and light air support.

      …It’s going to be marvelous.

      • Wrandral
      • shade 0180

        Just going to say even 1 hot air balloon with a fitted cannon would do the work.

        They won’t even have any way to touch that thing..

        • Inbetweenbooks

          the problem with fitting a canon on the balloon is that you need a big balloon to not get screwed by the recoil, or a really small canon/riffle, it’s hard to bring the ammo, and aiming it is going to be horrendous. Really, the balloons need to be huge or contain a minimum of 3 witches, for wind, for lift and the gravity girl to make it become able to carry a large amount of ammo.

          it’s a good thing, but it’s to wasteful to use in on the battlefield, at best you make it a light bomber and a tremendously useful scout. if it’s as a bomber, that is still 1-2 witches, since only anna is capable of producing liftcraft and you probably still want wincontrol for greater speed and control…

        • mllhild

          The strain the recoil would put on the ropes is far to great.

          It would be impossible to aim with all the shaking and accounting for the recoil.

          A balloon can’t maneuver, it just follows the wind.

          You will get at most 0.5 kg of ballast for each cubic meter of air. –> you are gonna need a 3000 m³ upwards balloon and good luck making the hull from animal intestines to resist this type of superficial tension that will e created.

          Oh, and yes the Gods punishment Soldiers probably can hit it with spear trows.

          • Inbetweenbooks

            he can solve some of this using witches.
            Use your wind witch to navigate, and the gravity witch to shrink the needed balloon size.

            and a thick metal bottom to deflect god punishment soldiers throws and ballista arrows.

            but it’s hardly optimal usage of the witches to put 3 of them on a balloon that still can’t use a very large gun (although a machine gun should be usable without breaking the ropes)

            and yes, aiming would be a nightmare, better to just drop things from it

            • Rafael Moura

              Isn’t it easier to just use bombs instead of cannons?

              Also it’s also possible to make something like a Zeppelin.

          • shade 0180

            they have an electromagnet witch, anna and that other witch that can control plant to her liking.. a few changes with the balloon and with those 3 witches in it would solve all the problem yo guys have been listing.

            Tension strength can be controlled by using a strengthen vine which can act as a rope, refitting the balloon to have metal air ways to control airflow which would be controlled by that other witch would solve instability of the Balloon and Anna’s flame control would maintain the flight of the balloon. seriously the technology here is not limited to the real world a work around with the witches could be easily use to solve the problem that physics can’t, I don’t remember if there was a witch that can control wind if there is one using her ability to supersede the air current would help with the guiding shot of the cannon too while in flight..

            • DudeForDuke

              Better alternative: use slingshots.

              No. I’m serious. Back in WWI there was a shortage of mortars and artillery pieces. Soldiers decided to utilize some ingenuity and they used slingshots to launch explosive shells and rounds like a mortar. Once they did ranging on how far they’d go by the length of pull and the angle, they’d mark it down on whatever they had mounted it on and they actually got respectably accurate in tossing them (although it obviously didn’t have the same range). Best part? Basically no recoil, it’s quiet and doesn’t use propellant at all.

              Have one in a balloon and you could launch explosive projectiles out to hundreds of yards and aim decently doing so (Roland could do some math and make a rudimentary sighting device for range – so long as they’re flying at a known altitude they could be accurate enough to hit formations of troops). Ammo could be smaller (read: carry more) due to not using propellant. And, of course, there’s no violent recoil to screw up the balloon.

              The other alternative is using recoilless guns on the balloon… Which would be a VERY bad idea. Back blast would be even worse than any potential recoil.

            • Inbetweenbooks

              they have an wind witch, with the standard 3 m range on her abilities, she drove the barge last war. aim from the balloon still sucks, it’s still a waste of witches, and putting cannons on it is still worse than dropping bombs.

              slingshot guy might have an idea for improving bomb dropping, but that is still about it.

              • shade 0180

                Why would it be a waste when the witches are not even going to be their manpower. Even Anna going to the frontline was never really a plan. also I’m using the witch to defend the point that they only need a single balloon to clear out the judgement army so the witch being used there will never be a wasted option.

                • Inbetweenbooks

                  they Will nOT be able to whipe everyone with the balloon, it’s not fast enough. using 3 witches (minimum, to deal with recoil you probably need4) is a waste when they all have greater use else where. gravity girl is making all the canons mobile, using her to just make the balloon Cary ammo is worse, leaf is painting the battlefield for the artillery aswell as doing anti charge work, wind girl was driving the gunboat, although using just her and Anna would work, but then they can’t carry enough weight to be anything but a light bomber/scout. or possibly use a machine gun.

                  thing is, Anna is needed for the balloon to work, and she is priceless as a production unit, to risk her on an actual battlefield is folly. at most she can work as a scout or high altitude bomber

                  not to mention the fact that the flat trajectory is optimal on a crowded battlefield… and that cannonballs bounce…

                  if you meant using other crew that isn’t witches, the balloons they currently posses lacks burners/fuel efficient enoug to work for any extended period of time without Anna, and lacks sufficient navigation to be useful without windgirl.

                  • shade 0180

                    You know that the other army has nothing that can cross that kind of range right? If they have some weaponry that can cross that kind of range they would already have demolish the kingdom considering when the best they had is a crossbow.. seriously and the one marching toward roland is the church not roland you think the church has access to a mobile Ballista when one of the largest kingdom they have doesn’t even have it?

                    Also it doesn’t matter if it bounce considering that bounce can and will destroy formations which would help more in the long run.

                    Seriously dude expand your thinking here. this is not the same as the modern world where even a civilian can just destroy a hot air balloon when they need be, a twenty story gap between the archer and the Balloon is not something this people can just shoot and reach.

      • SanitaryCockroach

        I almost feel sorry for the Church and the Devils.